![]() ![]() How differently do you think Crimetown would have turned out without that connection to Bill? He took me to the courthouse, showed me how to work the system to get trial papers. Marc: Bill Malinowski was our original contact through a law enforcement person who I knew from years ago. The first interview we did was with Charles Kennedy. Alex said we should do something crime related as a podcast and Marc knew about the Providence story, so we started to do interviews. I knew Alex Blumberg from my hometown and we had kept in touch over the years, so everything kind of came together. The podcast world was kind of blowing up and we were trying to figure out what we were going to do next. Then when I read that article I was like “This is kind of Providence.” Then when he got reelected it was “Oh, that is Providence.” So he was brooding at the end of the bar at the Biltmore Hotel over a drink and a cigarette, but when I came over he lit up and we talked for a while. It was right before DeLeo because I remember soon after I read about this thing with the fireplace log. ![]() It was a very vulnerable stage, he was in this tortured place. I got to meet him between going to journalism school at Syracuse at Newhouse and graduate school for film at USC. I was fascinated, and my father-in-law introduced me to Buddy. You would go to these family picnics and there would be part of the family that’s kind of connected, and then there’s part of the family that are Rhodes scholars. When I started coming here regularly for family reasons I really started to understand the weird nature of relationships in Rhode Island, which are very close. Marc: I have family up here through a prior marriage, but I had no idea about Providence other than it was a city between Boston and New York. So why did you guys choose Providence to kick off Crimetown? With hosts Marc Smerling and Zac Stuart-Pontier in town this week for several Crimetown Live appearances at the Providence Athenaeum and Columbus Theatre, we caught up with them on Federal Hill (obviously) to talk about why they followed up their hit HBO series The Jinx with a podcast about organized crime, why the story had to be Providence and, of course, Buddy Cianci. Crimetown was a podcast phenomenon, a gripping saga of crime and corruption that made the story of Providence’s cops, robbers and rogues a weekly must-listen event. ![]()
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